Oh man. Please don’t buy these. They’re so ugly... but seriously... Previously owned, lightly used 255x57mm gyuto and 150x35mm petty in 52100 carbon steel from Tony Laseur of Laseur knives. Elforyn synthetic ivory and African Blackwood handles and saya. These are definitely firmly in the laser category, but with decent thickness at the spine. The gyuto starts at 5mm near the handle and tapers off into basically nothing. Does have some flex in the last couple inches of the tip, especially with the petty. As stated the knives have been used but are in great working condition. They have been gently cleaned and sharpened, but some light spots of patina remain, with some very light surface scuffs and scratches. The saya are in excellent cosmetic condition, there some stray fibers in the felt lining.